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July 28, 2010
Putting NextBus to Shame
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I love this concept that would tell you not only when your transit or passenger rail vehicle is approach, but which sections are least crowded and where you can board with your wheeled vehicle of choice.
Posted by Chris Smith at 12:37 AM
Comments
July 27, 2010 11:06 PM
EngineerScotty Says:
How about whether or not the A/C is working?
July 28, 2010 9:50 AM
NextBus Says:
Actually NextBus already does do this if the vehicles have automatic passenger counters installed AND the particular transit agency wants the public to view how full the buses are. Most agencys who have NextBus passenger counters DO NOT want the public to see how full their buses are - it makes them look bad because they are often overcrowded.
July 28, 2010 10:01 AM
Chris Smith Says:
Apologies! Perhaps I should have written "putting most implementations of NextBus" to shame :-)
This is really a comment about the value of investing in these kinds of systems as a way to drive ridership and satisfaction, not a dig against any technology provider.
July 28, 2010 10:21 AM
Jason Barbour Says:
How about whether or not the A/C is working?
Or, if the vehicle has AC at all?! It seems like a good idea, before every bus met ADA specifications, transit schedules used to designate which trips were serviced by accessible buses.
Even though TriMet doesn't use NextBus (and please note the following example and route number used in the example are used for illustrative purposes only and the example is not directly based on any particular temperature or day of service), imagine...
*tones* TriMet® For TransitTracker™ arrival times or schedules, press 1...
*BEEP*
If you know your Stop ID, enter it now...
*BEEP* *BEEP* *BEEP* *BEEP*
SE Harold and 72nd 10-Harold to Portland Un-air-conditioned bus arriving in 11 minutes and scheduled at 5:32 AM tomorrow.
If Neil McFarlane's vision he outlined in the interview pans out, all of this may become a moot point. That would be nice.
July 28, 2010 12:43 PM
Jason McHuff Says:
If you use TriMet's own interactive map, it does show which exact vehicle is coming (select a route on the right side and then click "Buses" at the top). Then it just requires knowledge about which buses have air conditioning (or low floors, etc).
it makes them look bad because they are often overcrowded
Either that or underutilized. Though I do think that agencies which can invest in NextBus might tend to have crowding problems more.
July 28, 2010 11:57 PM
Jason Barbour Says:
If you use TriMet's own interactive map, it does show which exact vehicle is coming (select a route on the right side and then click "Buses" at the top).
Is there a way I can get the interactive map via the 503-238-RIDE phone tree?! :) That's what I was referring to in my post.
Though I do think that agencies which can invest in NextBus might tend to have crowding problems more.
Correlating spending money on technology as not spending money on increased operations? Sounds like reality to me.
July 29, 2010 12:37 AM
Jason McHuff Says:
spending money on technology as not spending money on increased operations
What I meant was that bigger agencies tend to have more crowding problems might also tend to have the money to invest in NextBus.
July 29, 2010 11:55 AM
Dave H Says:
If you use TriMet's own interactive map, it does show which exact vehicle is coming (select a route on the right side and then click "Buses" at the top). Then it just requires knowledge about which buses have air conditioning (or low floors, etc).
Is this on ride.trimet.org, or another site? I'm having trouble finding it.
July 29, 2010 1:48 PM
Jason McHuff Says:
Is this on ride.trimet.org
Yes. When you click on a bus route under "TriMet Routes", there should be a "Buses" link at the top next to "Clear" and "Measure".
July 30, 2010 10:24 AM
Jared Says:
That is way cool! I didn't know that TriMet had that capability...what are the odds that this technology makes it onto an iPhone app? Do they make this information available to app developers?
In Honolulu, it's HEA (Honolulu Estimated Arrival) system shows the route, vehicle number, and arrival time on its website...it's super handy if you're a bus freak like me :-)
July 30, 2010 1:37 PM
Jason McHuff Says:
this technology makes it onto an iPhone app
TriMet's apps page sounds like some iPhone ones do show a map. And my TransitMapper does show vehicle positions, though I can't get vehicle numbers.
July 30, 2010 3:13 PM
Dave H Says:
That's pretty awesome. A few times I've "watched" the bus I hear outside my windows go by on the map. I guess I could just open the blinds, but that's just cool.





